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|  | Where's the rain? « Thread Started on Sept 15, 2003, 2:58am » | |
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Regarding Chemtrails Over New Jersey, I would be curious to know if it did rain that night or the next morning in New Jersey, as predicted. I'll bet it didn't. I have watched this happen here in the Northwest for 2 years now. Every time there is rain predicted from about April through October, VERY HEAVY SPRAYING occurs, starting about 24 hours before the predicted arrival of the weather front. You wake up to a brilliantly blue sky in the early morning. They start spraying - the sky is totally whited out and resprayed as soon as there is an opening. That night or morning, the heavy, dark rain clouds roll in and are very quickly "sucked up". The rain clouds disburse and you can see high altitude planes furiously spraying into what is left of the rain clouds. Sometimes just a few drops of rain manage to fall. We have had the driest and hottest summer ever recorded in this area. We are supposed to have rain tomorrow. Guess what? They have been spraying since early this morning. I am sealed off in my house - it is very toxic out there. How come nobody questions the fact that weather fronts with lots of rain are moving in from the Pacific, AS IS NORMAL IN THIS AREA - - but no rain is released. Is everybody blind - or are they brain dead? ' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I think if you look at the thread on cell phones, you will find they are making 30 year old's senile 
But, this reminded me of last week...weather forecasters informed us that on the Saturday we would have rain all day and rain the following day too. What did we get? Two days of unusually hot sunshine, blue skies and not a cloud in the sky.
Walking round the shops, I heard many snippets of conversation; people were asking where was the rain that was forecast? Not only was there NO rain, but NOT a single cloud in sight? In fact it was the main topic of converation
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #1 on Sept 15, 2003, 7:18am » | |
That's exactly what's happening today, here in Western New York, Amber. Very heavy overnight spraying and the sky now looks like a thick, white pea soup... all ahead of a cold front/weather system still well to the west of us now, containing some much needed moisture. We've also not received ANY of the scattered showers that our local forecasters have been predicting for the last couple of days. And by the way, as of today, our annual precipitation total to date is 3.26 inches BELOW normal. It's very dry here, many plants are withering, and the leaves on many trees are withering and dying, the Norway Maples being the hardest hit with the insidious "tar spot fungus". Between this extended drought and the tar spot fungus, the are not in good shape.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #2 on Sept 18, 2003, 7:52pm » | |
Whats the situation with ground water in your part of the world Big Joe?
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #3 on Sept 24, 2003, 8:50pm » | |
I'm not sure what the ground water situation is overall, here in Western, N.Y., Joe, as the water that we get here in our home in Rochester is from the city water supply. However, I can tell you that many of the smaller streams are starting to dry up, all of the major creeks in this neck of the woods are low, along with many of the smaller ponds, and many of the shallow rooted plants are starting to wither, and a number of other trees besides the Norway Maples are already shedding their leaves, which is unusual for this date. We did get around .48 inch of rain the other night, although that storm system was very heavily sprayed, and that rainfall has helped ease the situation somewhat, but our precipitation for this area is still around three inches below normal, a fact that our local forecasters don't talk about very much. We really haven't had a good "old fashioned" rainstorm, the kind we used to get, in a long, long time. They had originally forecasted possibly 3-5 inches of rain from Hurricane Isabel. My rain gauge, after the storm was over, registered .18 inch. The official talley for Isabel here was .12 inch... not quite the high figures they had predicted. And we are about to go into our "Autumn rainy season" for this region soon. I'm hoping that we get it this year. Last year we didn't.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #4 on Sept 24, 2003, 9:11pm » | |
bloody hell!! 0.18 of an inch from Isabel.
That is crazy, you should have been drowned, or at least totally soaked. A bit of a worry I would say.
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Yeah thats what I was getting at. My understanding of where you live, (Western NY), is that alot of water is stored under the ground,. the water table is high and the soil actuyally holds more moisture than most of Australia's soils. Where I am we have unusual soils by Australian standards, young (less than 30 million years), and high moisture content and a high water table, but it seems to drop incredibly quickly. Over the last few years the ground dries up and trees and shrubs don't grow as well or drop leaves, some even wither and die. the native plants seem to cope better, but even some of them started to look stressed. (That is a bit of a sign of how dry it is).
Anyway in the first half of the year we got heaps of rain, it seemed the water table was back up to normal, even a month or 6 weeks ago. no it seems to have dropped significantly. I am sure the record september heat has something to do with it, but sometimes it feels like the air around a bushfire, the smoke particles seem to suck the moisture out of your mouth. Yes there has been heaps of smoke around, but no more than usual for this time of year, if it too hot to burn off then there are wild fires, if it isn't then everyone is doing last minute fuel reduction burns.
And the september westerlies also contribute to the dry off.
But as I said before in other years the affect hasn't been anything like this constant drain of moisture. Outside it seems the moisture evaporates as much in the lee oif the winds as in the fuill face of them.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #5 on Sept 24, 2003, 9:50pm » | |
Well, I've waited about four years for it to happen, but after being blitzed today from dawn 'til dusk, a thundershower appeared in the midst of all the aerosol joy. This is absoultely the first time I can recall seeing this happen.
A teeth-rattling thunder preceded the downpour, that being preceded by what appeared to be some strange fusion of ball & heat lightning.
It really was strange, or I wouldn't be mentioning it.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #6 on Sept 24, 2003, 11:03pm » | |
I have seen a similar thing once or twice. I am sure I have mentioned it. Dry thunderstorms sometimes lightning with no real thundercloud.
What did the cloud look like when it started.
The other week we had rain lightning and thunder and nothing in the sky but messy haze. probably chem haze too, it was before these fires.
Funny how similar the pics of chem haze from the states, chem haze here and smoke from fires looks. Spose that makes sense tho, all this particulate matter in the sky would have similar effects on the light.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #7 on Sept 24, 2003, 11:26pm » | |
It looked like typical cirrus aviaticus that had merged into an artifical cloud layer. Irridescent (sp?), but nothing new there. There were some pretty strange standing-wave pattern technoclouds earlier in the day. Bigger and thicker than your typical fare.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #8 on Sept 25, 2003, 8:07am » | |
We were hoping that the rain from Isabel they were predicting would end the ongoing drought here. Needless to say, the rainfall amounts were very disappointing. What I found even more alarming was the massive aerosol assault preceeding the storm. I've seen many of these assaults before, but I can honestly say that this was the worst blitz that I have ever witnessed so far. It started in the morning, just around the time we had expected the jets would show up, from watching the updated satellite images, and the vast armada of sprayers continued their work overhead until the natural clouds of Isabel gradually overspread the region. As I'm sure you are aware, this massive assault was clearly visible on the satellite images. During this time, I heard one of our local forecasters refer to this massive wall of chemtrails as the "shear shield" of the hurricane.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #9 on Oct 4, 2003, 2:12pm » | |
Yesterday, Friday, 10/3/03, the aerosol jets were out in full force over Western N.Y. ahead of a large weather system approaching us from the west. By noon, the sky had been totally chemmed over. Today, Saturday, 10/04/03, as the storm now departs our area, my rain gauge registers only .35 inch from this system. My opinion, after carefully monitoring this storm as it gradually approached Western N.Y., is that we should have recieved much more rain from this large weather system, perhaps as much as one and a half inch to two inches.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #10 on Oct 8, 2003, 6:39am » | |
10/8/03, Western N.Y., Precipitation for the year is 2.99 inches BELOW normal.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #11 on Oct 8, 2003, 7:32pm » | |
In the last week and a half we've had about 3 inches of rain, storms, even the odd blackout.
It seems like normal spring weather here again for the first time in about 4 years.
The blackouts were actually normal. Given the power of the electrical storms in this part of the world, the 100 km hr plus winds etc etc, the power was out cos of all the trees that fell acrioss powerlines, and the odd lightning strike. This used to happen all the time too. Hopefully the wind has blown all the potentially power outaging tree limbs down in one fell swoop.
Its nice to see paddocks green at this time of year. Better than looking at them and thinking, gee even that'll burn.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #12 on Oct 10, 2003, 12:43pm » | |
10/10/03, Western N.Y. Spraying here has been extremely heavy as of late. Chemmed over sky today.  Precipitation for the year is 3.17 inches BELOW normal.
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #13 on Oct 12, 2003, 4:32am » | |
Really dirty, nasty sky this am. I can just about see the trails through the muck...
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|  | Re: Where's the rain? « Reply #14 on Oct 12, 2003, 7:29am » | |
Heavy overnight spraying in advance of a coldfront w/shrinking area of precip. Precip. for year 3.35 inches below normal.
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